Green Bay Packers Final 2013 Draft Board

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1. I’m sure all the homers want to reassure themselves and each other that TT hit one out of the park and now the Packers are but 19 games removed from their next Super Bowl title, but the reality is for a team and a guy that live and die by the draft it was a low B, high C effort at best.

   Get the BPA thing for the draft, but with all the commodity picks that TT likes to stockpile, all the obscure reach picks that are just camp meat seem to align to translate a C draft to a C impact on the field.

   Let the pillory begin…

   1. Yup.
      after r1 i pretty much hate this entire draft.

      i get the lacy pick… value, i guess. but did they really need to go rb again w/ franklin? dude’s pretty much a harris clone.

      bakhtiari’s too light. 299 lb OL is not how you get “more physical”.

      tretter – i guess i understand taking a n athetic OL to mold into a backup… but in r4? seems way early.

      hyde ran a 4.57… so corner’s probably a stretch. and he’s only 197 so safety’s probably a stretch.

      boyd sounds like just another body to throw on top of the worthy/daniels/wilson/jolly pile. so his best attribute is his athleticism but e can’t rush the qb… ok.

      palmer, johnson, dorsey, and barrington will never play a regular season snap for the Packers.

      Packers had guys getting stollen right in front of them twice…

      bailey
      schwenke

      by the way – the 49’ers crushed this draft…

      reid
      carradine
      mcdonald
      lemonier
      patton
      lattimore
      dial

      …ridiculous

      1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A5XOIMs6D0

         1. Chad, not doomed, just marching in place while others move forward. Not, in my opinion, the way you IMPROVE.

         2. and while you make jokes… Rodgers’ best seasons are fluttering away.

            1. There are worse things in life.

               1. didn’t realize we were talking about life.
                  thought we were talking about the Packers.

                  my bad.

                  1. I’ll say this. .none of these comments are unwarranted. It could very well be that Ted had a not-so-great draft, but we can’t judge that now. Same thing with the 9ers. Yes, they perceivably did some good maneuvering but as many say, you can’t grade a draft until a few years later. Let’s see how this plays out. Also remember that when you’re picking late in rounds, you can’t always trade up for what you want. This draft didn’t hold what a lot deemed to be top-flight talent to begin with. I will tell you this. . minus maybe 1 of these guys, they are all smart players and won’t have any character issues. How would you like to be the Arizona Cardinals and waste ANY pick on the honey badger?

                  2. The way some of you comment, you’d think the Packers were the only thing that mattered in this world, and that everything will soon come crashing down into a fiery apocalypse.

                     Calm down. It’s the day after the draft, and we have no clue what’s going to happen in a few months. So stop acting like you have some sort of god-given clairvoyance.

            2. Actually, Matt Groening was making the jokes. Chad was just using them for effect.

      2. Michael Floyd, Jamell Fleming, Bobby Massie, Senio Kelemete, Justin Bethel, Ryan Lindley, Nate Potter. Yeah, they killed it. Look at all the all-pros in that draft. Maybe look at the 2011 draft. Smith and Kaepernick…that’s it from the draft before that. This year’s draft hasn’t done anything on the field yet. Neither did SF’s draft from last year.

         Truth is, nobody can tell what this years draft will do on the field yet.
         I’m sure many guys ripped on GB for drafting Driver, Tauscher, Flynn, etc.

         1. Michael Floyd, Jamell Fleming, Bobby Massie, Senio Kelemete, Justin Bethel, Ryan Lindley, Nate Potter

            Whats the Cards draft got to do w/ SF?

            1. LOL…yep…
               A.J. Jenkins, LaMichael James, Joe Looney, Darius Fleming, Trenton Robinson, Jason Slowey, Cam Johnson

               Same point.

               1. how about we talk about THIS YEAR’S draft?

                  1. Lots of questions for the 49ers’ draft, particularly whether Tank and Lattimore can return to form. That’s hardly a given.

                  2. I did. They have done just as much on the field as last year’s draft for SF.

      3. First let’s remember that SF started with 14 picks vs 8 for GB. That was the cards dealt to TT.

         Easy for you to discount two premium RB’s which will make the OL look much better. They will also give Rodgers more time in passing. GB will convert many more 3rd & 1’s and control the clock. A thing they sucked at last yr.

         Compared to Lattimore who will not play 1 down this year (if ever). Five new starters on D will not be good for SF being on the same page.

         TT felt he had better WR’s than Patton because he passed on him a few times.

         Dial is another clone of our stuff the run guys with no movement. We didn’t need another of that type. We need Datone Jones & Boyd. Both are better than Dial. Holly is easily better than Dial and I predict Neal will show up and demolish LT this year.

         When we play SF the first game this year McMillian, Perry will be much better at containing the run. Jones will contain the running QB and stuff him.

         Lacy and Franklin will show their running and blocking ability. Something lacking in GB for past 5 years. Expect one of them to get 100 yards rushing to begin the season.

         Johnson (if he makes the team) will show his speed and drive one CB and Safety deep every time he takes the field.

         Prediction:

         GB: 44 SF 13

         If hyde makes the 53, expect him to be picking the ball – maybe a pick 6.

         Oh the whole D that was drafted last year will be coming into their 2nd year, fresh off of OTA’s and off season prep. You will see improved all around.

         1. Ya gotta love anybody predicting a score in April!

            1. Same as trying to grade the draft.

               GB, Det, Vikings all had very good drafts. Equal for what they needed to do. B for each. Good teams that improved for the next season.

               Chicago sucked as usual. They must have hired millen as a scout.

               1. Oh and thanks for the love

         2. you got the score right.
            just mixed up the teams.

            1. Sorry: Wisconsin 44, Northern Iowa 13.

      4. Am I the only one that thought Reed to be the next Taylor Mays? (who also went to the 9ers, before being traded to the Bengals for a 7th rounder)

         1. yes – you are the only one.

            1. Yeah, confused Reid with Elam…

            2. I like Reid as much as anyone, but think they seriously reached to get him that high. IMO they probably would have gotten him at #31.

      5. Agree, the draft was end loaded due to trading back. Hopefully Ted’s pick will pan out. I would have preferred that Ted traded up or took best value on the latter rounds. One area that was ignored was QB, we have no backups and there was great value out there that we passed on. I also liked Jesse Williams and Patton that we passed on. Williams was a dominant football player who did not miss much time.

      6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soXMCkoWfQo

   2. Nothing more needs to be said than it takes two years minimum to have any idea how this draft was. And that goes both ways – those who want to get their shots in at the guy that slayed their demi-god hero, or those who need to pump sunshine in March and April to make themselves feel better about January and February.

      1. You won the internet with “pump sunshine”

      2. Toolkein is right. But I would go further. It really takes around 5 years to know if a player is a bust. Consider Rodgers. If you were to judge him after his first three years, you might wonder if he was good enough to play in this league. And that’s not just because he rarely played. When he did play (mostly preseason) he often looked looked bad. I bet a lot of Packer fans thought he was a bust. And now look …

2. Any grade give to a draft is not useful at this moment. Always check back in a year or two.

   If Jones, Lacy, Franklin and Bakhtiari are starters and let’s say four other draftees make the team and contribute, I think the draft would be considered a good one.

   I still worry about conditioning and injuries. There is not much point in having a draft like last year when so many top people get serious injuries.

   Here’s hoping that all the guys who the team stay healthy.

   1. Of course you grade the draft immediately – when you took tests did your instructors tell you they wanted to see how things worked out for you before they gave you a grade?

      Where are you from, Candyland?

      1. An instructor grading a test is analogous to a day after grading of the draft? Wow! The true assessment of the team, the real “test”, comes on the field, which hasn’t happened yet.
         Seeing “how things worked out” is actually what good educators and coaches do. Despite the “grades” on paper, judge the players by what they consistently prove, not by what they showed with one snap-shot of the past.
         And seriously, bully tactics to make a point?

         1. Mr. Lucas, I am sorry that I offended your sensibilities but either you missed the point entirely or decided to just ignore my point.

            When they talk about grading the DRAFT, it’s pretty simple – what they did this weekend based on what everyone knew in the past and now knows at this point in time. The on-field performance is graded in the standings the next season with the W-L record. I have never heard them talking in December and January about a team’s draft grades so I have to go with the idea we grade them now.

            There’s a reason that for the next few days all you are going to see on every sports media channel in the universe is GRADES for the draft. The 2013 NFL Draft. Think about it. If they subscribed to your position, they’d be grading the 2011 draft because you have to wait a couple of years to be able to grade someone, correct?

            Sorry, but I have to run have to help my eighth grader study for his sixth grade finals.

            PS – This is the version of my original response to you with the teeth removed. I didn’t want you to think I was using bully tactics to make a point.

            1. I’d say that’s more an indictment of the media’s love of instant analysis and judgement and the fan’s desire for instant coverage than any rationale assessment of either the team or the draft. Grading the 2011 draft is probably the smarter move but no fan wants to wait 3 years (where they’ve probably forgotten who was drafted anyways), plus fans want to hype their current draft, especially if their team was terrible last year (hence the boundless optimism we see during the draft, where every player drafted is the next Tom Brady) Luca’s point is that grading now and performance later aren’t normally correlated, if that’s important to you then grading now doesn’t make sense.

               1. No doubt, but the reality is we live in a 10 second sound byte world where we judge and analyze everything with ever-increasing immediacy and shallowness.

                  I do struggle with the wholesale “step up to the cooler and getya some ‘really-good-draft’ Kool-Aid that everyone seems to be pushing. I think that this draft, like most of TT’s will be good but not great, and by extension so will the team within that time frame of reference.

                  I just wish we’d stop canonizing this guy for doing his job.

               2. If praising someone “for doing his job” (and remember how thin the talent on this team was when Mike Sherman–who had devalued the draft–left town) is off-limits, then scorching him should be, as well. This isn’t politics, after all.

                  1. Could not agree with you more, but the idea gets lost in translation.

            2. Ron Wolf always said you can’t grade a draft until 3 years. But I’m sure you know a lot more football than one of the greatest GM’s ever!

               Go ahead and put your F on the draft it won’t be known to be good or bad until future performance is taken into account. That’s what the draft is about… Its Not about today before any of them have even stepped on an NFL field!

               1. Of course the draft is an F right now…none of these 9 guys have contributed anything toward winning a championship. 😉

      2. Are you for real with this comment.The majority of players are developed.

      3. Sav…immediately grading a drafted NFL player isn’t the same as assessing someone’s ability to comprehend something they have been reviewing for the past month, aka, taking a test in school.

         I know you get this and I agree that you can grade the draft now, but it’s the same thing as saying “X team is going to win a Super Bowl based on their offseason moves”. There’s no way to know until the pads come on. It takes 2-3 seasons to really know how some of these guys will pan out.

         Right now begins the “lessons” aka learning the play book, practice, mini camps. The “test” are the games over the next few seasons. The “grades” then come 2-3 years later unless it’s just glaringly obvious this season that a guy is no good or gets cut. C’mon, we haven’t even seen these guys in uniform yet.

   2. BINGO! While I don’t completely disagree with cow42 or savage57, I do believe the Packers hit home runs with Jones, Lacy, Balkatieri, and Franklin. I think that Jones, Lacy, and Franklin will all make a difference on this team this year. I think Balkatieri needs a year to add some bulk and who knows, may step in right away. If the Packers get production from 3 or 4 picks this year that’s a huge improvement over the last two Thompson drafts. The sleeper just may be Johnson. Big and fast, hey with a little guidance from Jones, Cobb, and Nelson he may just surprise us. We may have a faster version of Colston!

   3. “Any grade give to a draft is not useful at this moment. Always check back in a year or two.”

      I would argue that any grade you give to a draft is ONLY useful at this moment.

3. I thought that the Packers wanted to get bigger and more physical? With the exception of Datone Jones and Lacy, the rest of the draft appears to be made out of the same finesse mold that has dropped the Packers way behind the Niners.

   1. So in order to beat SF we have to play the game their way? That’s the same as saying a shooting guard could never beat a center, or a team of guards could never beat a team of centers. There’s more than one way to win games.
      We lost that game. Get over it. Let it go. SF hasn’t won a game yet in 2013. Why are we chasing a team that’s 0-0? Paper! Things on paper are frightening us? NO!

      1. Reminds me of a post-game call-in show after a Wisconsin-Illini hoops game when I was a post-doc at U of Illinois in 1998. Playing Dick Bennett’s style, UW had just lost a 4-point game to a very talented Illini team.

         A caller was complaining that if Wisconsin would just play an up-tempo style like most modern teams, U of I would have pounded them. I can’t find a better reason to not play someone else’s style.

   2. SIZE does not equal PHYSICALITY or TOUGHNESS.

      We’ve seemed to equate all of those. Size without motor doesn’t do much. Motor can accomplish a lot in the absence of bulk.

4. The Packers got the snot knocked out of them twice last year by the Niners and by the Giants the year before that. I think the finesse game can get the Packers to the playoffs but when they run into a good physical team, the finesse teams often take a beating.

   1. That’s why Lacy will pound. I was worried about him in the first round because he might be a product of a great line , but at 61 he’s a steal. 6.5 avg in college,I’ll take 4.5 next year.

      1. Heck,Pete, I’d take 3.5

         1. I’d take two on the 3rd and 1s.

      2. With the same offensive line? It doesn’t make much difference who the RB is, if the line can’t block. I never hear anybody on hear talk about Lacy and his turf toe that was so bad that he got his toe fused! Which is why Pittsburg passed on him.

5. @Savage57

   No, but my instructor waited until I actually took the test before grading me on it. Nobody knows how an NFL player is gonna pan out until they’ve played at least a season or two. Think about it, would you have predicted Clay Matthews would become one of the best OLBs in the league after he was drafted?

   1. I get the wait n see thing, but for the love of Pete I was talking about the paper grades everyone in the world is going to be talking about for the next three days.

      And I’m talking about the GM that picked ’em this weekend, not the players themselves. It’s a relative as opposed to an absolute thing.

      PS – Click on the word “Reply” in green and underlined when you want to respond directly to someone’s post.

      1. Apparently you care too much about what others think of you. Otherwise you wouldn’t be too interested in what a bunch of journalists think of the Packers draft.

         Seems your whole life revolves around how pitiful you seem to think the Packers are.

   2. You can only grade something when…
      1. you know what the answer IS or,
      2. you know what you wanted the kid to say.

      Which of these is appropriate, here?

6. I’m gonna go out and say I’m not worried about San Francisco. They made a mistake in trading away Alex Smith and now have zero depth at QB with a starter who plays in a way that comes with high injury risk.

   Also, criticize Thompson all you want, but realize that you could have substantially worse. Just ask the Jets or the Bills.

   1. I’m a little confused as to why everyone is afraid of SF. One game does not make a season and one team is never the only team to beat. The Packers could have the snot kicked out of them by SF and still win the Super Bowl. Maybe SF slides out of the playoffs, maybe the Packers slide out of the playoffs. I don’t know how people are predicting that the Packers will see the niners past week 1

      1. Really? You don’t know why? Because they are very young, and seem to be getting better. And it appears the Packers are good, but just treading water. This team is soft. And it did nothing to get bigger and stronger. Faster? Maybe. But this team got pushed around by physical teams. And the 49ers are much more physical.

         1. When you’re winning double-digit games over the last several seasons (including 15 year before last) and a SuperBowl over that span, it’s hard to do much more than tread water.

7. I like the work WHITEY did in this Draft. The RB corps just got totally revammped, which is good. BIG DEAL IS THAT BOTH THESE RB CAN/WILL PASS PRO FOR A-RODGE. DATONE is a second attempt @ what they wanted out of NEAL. The 2 OL fit what they look for in the trenches. THey will also sign another 5-6 URFA who will compete for jobs in Training Camp.

   1. Mike Neal isn’t a bad football player, he’s just not a three-down, 3-4 end. What the Packers did get out of this draft is two immediate starters (Jones and (probably) Lacy), and provided competition to force out players at positions that haven’t been doing what they need (DL, OL).

      We can talk all about needing to get bigger and tougher in the trenches, but there are growing pains with that. I would all but guarantee that if the Packers drafted 2 OL with the intent to drop in the lineup on day 1, ARod would be running for his life even more than before…”here MM, here’s your franchise QB’s knee, or another concussion.”

      As for the DL, it’s a safe bet that both Boyd and Jones are on the week 1 roster, and maybe even Pena and Jolly (who I’m pretty sure doesn’t have a chance now). That means that up to 4 guys who played significant snaps in 2012 (Wilson, Daniels, Neal, Worthy (who I think will be PUP and then IR)?) are going to be gone. That’s a massive overhaul.

      You’re getting the change you’re asking for. Let these guys play and see where we end up.

      1. The reason Neal isn’t a 3 dwon DE is entirely due to injury. Otherwise if you call Jones a 3 down DE, you have to say that Neal is too. Size they are very close. Jones about an inch taller, but 10 lbs lighter and his arms are about and inch shorter. So really Neal is both bigger and longer. Not to mention they test very similar for the important elements related to DE.

         1. Never called Jones a 3-down DE…I think he’s at least a little mis-cast in the 3-4 as an end unless he gets up to 300 lbs.

      2. DL most likely: Raji, Pickett, Neal, Jones, Wilson, Daniels, Jolly/Boyd/Pena (pick 2) Worthy probably starts on PUP.

         1. Pena needs to develop lower body muscle. He is a “soft” 330 lbs. He will probably be on Practice squad, but then again he might make it to 53 if Jolly doesn’t make it (or another injury occurs).

8. I don’t really think SF ‘out-physicalled’ us in the playoffs. Our contain (walden) just got outran by Kaepernick. Perry should help with that this year. CK also made some spectacular throws in that game. If worthy and jones can penetrate as anticipated, that can blow up the read option.

   1. They rushed for over 300 yards. They punched the Packers in the face. They ran over the Packers. Their QB ran for what, 176? And we didn’t get a hand on him for the first 173 yards! The 49ers are MUCH more physical.

      1. That game was a train-wreck on so many levels…physicality was only a portion of it.

9. There is one thing about this year’s draft that is certain. The “Homers” will praise TT and the “woulda-coulda” super-critics will damn him for blowing it.

   As for myself, I’ll take the middle way. Praise for picking Jones, Bakhtiari and Franklin; damnation for picking Hyde (especially since Tavarres King, Corey Fuller, Ryan Swope and Bacarri Rambo were still available). I went to Iowa. I’v seen Hyde get burned by fast receivers. He is simply too slow. Also, why take Tretter in the fourth when Quinton Patton was still available? We “coulda had” at least one polished receiver to go with one of the two projects selected in the 7th round.

   1. I was intrigued by Swope at that point. I look at Hyde and the first thing I thought was that this guy is going to be a safety if he makes it in the NFL. Special teams.

      There were other decent receivers to be had in Rd. 4 and beyond. Even if Patton turned the Packers off in some way, they didn’t bite on the others, either. Clearly, Stroh was right: the Packers didn’t see WR/TE as a need area for this draft.

10. You guys should put up the last 5 drafts and then we’ll grade them.

    1. SF draft stats since 2005: 67 picks, 16.4% 1st round, 7.5% 2nd, 13.4 3rd, 10.4 4th, 11.9 5th, 20.9 6th, 19.4 7th
       2012
       A.J. Jenkins
       LaMichael James
       Joe Looney
       Darius Fleming
       Trenton Robinson
       Jason Slowey
       Cam Johnson

       2011
       Aldon Smith
       Colin Kaepernick
       Chris Culliver
       Kendall Hunter
       Daniel Kilgore
       Ronald Johnson
       Colin Jones
       Bruce Miller
       Mike Person
       Curtis Holcomb

       2010
       Anthony Davis
       Mike Iupati
       Taylor Mays
       NaVorro Bowman
       Anthony Dixon
       Nate Byham
       Kyle Williams
       Phillip Adams

       2009
       Michael Crabtree
       Glen Coffee
       Scott McKillop
       Nate Davis
       Bear Pascoe
       Curtis Taylor
       Ricky Jean-Francois

       2008
       Kentwan Balmer
       Chilo Rachal
       Reggie Smith
       Cody Wallace
       Josh Morgan
       Larry Grant

       2007
       Patrick Willis
       Joe Staley
       Jason Hill
       Ray McDonald
       Jay Moore
       Dashon Goldson
       Joe Cohen
       Tarell Brown
       Thomas Clayton

       2006
       Vernon Davis
       Manny Lawson
       Brandon Williams
       Michael Robinson
       Parys Haralson
       Delanie Walker
       Marcus Hudson
       Melvin Oliver
       Vickiel Vaughn

       2005
       Alex Smith
       David Baas
       Frank Gore
       Adam Snyder
       Ronald Fields
       Rasheed Marshall
       Derrick Johnson
       Daven Holly
       Marcus Maxwell
       Patrick Estes
       Billy Bajema

    2. GB draft stats since 2005: 76 total picks, 10.5% 1st round, 15.8% 2nd, 9.2% 3rd, 14.5% 4th, 15.8% 5th, 17.1% 6th, 17.1% 7th
       2012
       Nick Perry
       Jerel Worthy
       Casey Hayward
       Mike Daniels
       Jerron McMillian
       Terrell Manning
       Andrew Datko
       B.J. Coleman

       2011
       Derek Sherrod
       Randall Cobb
       Alex Green
       Davon House
       D.J. Williams
       Caleb Schlauderaff
       D.J. Smith
       Ricky Elmore
       Ryan Taylor
       Lawrence Guy

       2010
       Bryan Bulaga
       Mike Neal
       Morgan Burnett
       Andrew Quarless
       Marshall Newhouse
       James Starks
       C.J. Wilson

       2009
       B.J. Raji
       Clay Matthews
       T.J. Lang
       Quinn Johnson
       Jamon Meredith
       Jarius Wynn
       Brandon Underwood
       Brad Jones

       2008
       Jordy Nelson
       Brian Brohm
       Pat Lee
       Jermichael Finley
       Jeremy Thompson
       Josh Sitton
       Breno Giacomini
       Matt Flynn
       Brett Swain

       2007
       Justin Harrell
       Brandon Jackson
       James Jones
       Aaron Rouse
       Allen Barbre
       David Clowney
       Korey Hall
       Desmond Bishop
       Mason Crosby
       DeShawn Wynn
       Clark Harris

       2006
       A.J. Hawk
       Daryn Colledge
       Greg Jennings
       Abdul Hodge
       Jason Spitz
       Cory Rodgers
       Will Blackmon
       Ingle Martin
       Tony Moll
       Johnny Jolly
       Tyrone Culver
       Dave Tollefson

       2005
       Aaron Rodgers
       Nick Collins
       Terrence Murphy
       Marviel Underwood
       Brady Poppinga
       Junius Coston
       Mike Hawkins
       Mike Montgomery
       Craig Bragg
       Kurt Campbell
       Will Whitticker

11. 2005, The Packers got Rodgers and Collins who both were great picks. The rest, not so much. Outside of Poppinga, who was average, not much. But with Rodgers, that makes this draft a success. A
    2006, Hawk is average at best. And is horrible for a 5th overall pick. College was a starter for a couple of years, but got pushed around a lot! Finally let go. Jennings, a great player. Spitz started a little, but just another guy. Blackmon was a pretty good returner, but was always getting hurt. C+
    2007, James Jones, Bishop and Crosby are above average. Frist round, Harrell, BUST! 2nd round Jackson, BUST! The problem with these drafts is TT almost always keeps all of them for at least 1-2 years.
    2008, Nelson, Very good WR. Sitton, a great Guard. Finley, inconsistent at best. Flynn? Who knows. Was a good backup. When you have 3 2nd round choices and 2 were complete busts, well not that good of a draft. C
    2009, Raji, good player at times. Not a NT. Gets pushed out of the middle way too much. CMIII, Great player. Injury prone. Misses some games every year. Lang, starting LG. Too much like College. NOT strong. Brad Jones, career backup until 2012. Started because of injury. Played OK. Got starter money. Grade B
    2010, Bulaga, average RT. Neal, first 2 years, nothing. Then played OK the last part of this year. Burnett is a pretty good Saftey. Newhouse is awful. 22 1/2 sacks in 2 years. For any Tackle that’s really bad, for a LT that can be a QB ender! Starks has had 4 good games his rookie year. Nothing since. D+
    2011, Cobb, turning into a real weapon. Sherrod, nothing during first year, then had a terrible injury. 2nd year, DNP. Green, Just a guy so far after ACL. House has potential. C
    2012, Perry and Worthy, both IR. Hayward had a great rookie year. The rest like Daniels, are just guys. INC. Until we know if Perry is the answer at OLB!

    1. I don’t understand how the Packers are consistently winning double-digit games year-in and year-out if they’re drafting this badly and suffering as many injuries as they do, to boot.

    2. It seems like you think other teams are so much better at drafting. From 2009 – 2012, the Packers have an 81.8% retention rate of draft picks, fifth best in the league. And that doesn’t include the undrafted players Thompson has found that have made the roster…

       take a look:

       http://www.drafttek.com/ConsolidatedNFLDraft2012-SWT.ASP#.UX3hQ7VzF8E

    3. Nelson, Sitton, Finley = C? lol…

       1. And think what you want about 2010’s draft, but every one of those guys with the exception of an injured Andrew Quarless started regularly or in injury relief at some point in 2012.

       2. The Packers missed badly on 2 second round picks. Finley can’t catch a cold.
          Sitton and Nelson are the only good players. Brohm didn’t even make it to the end of training camp! Pat Lee? Another not even average player. Kept 2 years too long. And the rest of who cares? Flynn? He got to play in 2 games, and played very well. But if he was that good, he wouldn’t of gotten beat out in Seattle! So yeah a “C”!

    4. And if you’re going to compare the 49ers to the Packers, let’s remember the 49ers did not have a winning record in any year from 2006 – 2010. The packers had a winningb recors every one of those years except one. So of course, they 49ers had opportunities to grab better players

       1. But SF won a SB in those years….oooops I guess that was GB.

          A free agent signing for best QB and best D player occurred on Friday. Rodgers and CMIII. GB is set to run. Justine Smith is on last legs and CK will be in second year as player. Let’s see how he does and then compare.

          Scott gives a “B” for 2009.

          Scott clearly underestimates the players in that draft. CMIII alone makes it an “A”. Raji had ankle issues last year but still is one of the top NT. Jones took over in the middle and can play all 4 LB spots. Lang is way better than colledge.
          Starks had 4 good games (all playoff games) including a winning SB.

          1. Really? CMIII is great, but he HAS to start playing 16 games. Raji? Overrated! He’s not a NT. He gets pushed around a lot at NT. That’s why they had to put Pickett back at NT. Jones IS a career backup, who played well for 9 games last year. And Lang is College all over. Gets pushed back into the backfield a lot. And yes, Starks IS a joke. If you don’t know the playbook after 3 years, you are a joke!
             In case reading is hard for you guys, the only thing I said was put up the last 5 years and we would grade them. Nowhere in that did I mention the 49ers! I never said to compare the two.

    5. raji, cm3, lang and jones is a B draft?

       wow. Cm3 may be the best defensive player in football. raji and land are solid starters. jones will most likely start games this season, at a minimum he will be the 3rd down backer. you are a tough grader. i would say that drafting a player who is on track to be a HOF player at the end of the first round should make a draft an A.

       1. Trading up to get that guy, no less.

       2. Players that can’t play a whole season, don’t get into the hall of fame. Is CMII great yes, I’ve said this how many times? You guys hear just what you want to hear. Raji and Lang? Raji and Lang are overrated. Raji was drafted to be the NT that won’t be moved. Now why did the Packers move Pickett back to NT and Raji to end? Because Raji gets pushed out of the middle to easily. Lang? He’s just College 2.0. Except he doesn’t talk. Remember earlier this offseason when McCarthy said the whole left side needed to get better. That includes Lang! One player doesn’t make any draft an “A”. Even I made an exception for the draft with Rodgers. But not for CMII, and a bunch of average.

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