Ted Thompson: 2011 Green Bay Packers Evaluation and Report Card

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  1. ELo
    February 21, 2012

    Worst defense in the league = C

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    • Chad Toporski
      Chad Toporski
      February 21, 2012

      Best offense in the league = ???

      The success or failure of a team can only be credited to the GM at a certain level. It takes the players and coaches to do the rest. Thus, grading Ted Thompson goes far beyond just how well the team performed.

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    • Frank Rizzo
      February 21, 2012

      3rd best offense in the league = A
      3rd worst offense in the league = F

      15-1 regular season record = A
      0-1 postseason record = F

      Overall = C

      His moves, especially ignoring the OLB position AGAIN, and making huge error letting the rare skills of #77 Cullen Jenkins go were the main problems with the defense all year long.

      Despite that, it was the offense fumbling and dropping and misfiring vs the Giants that proved fatal.

      Ted needs to bring in some more Pickett/Woodson type FA’s this spring such as DE Adam Carriker, OLB Manny Lawson, or OLB Jerry Hughes. Those guys are all HUGE upgrades to the #&*@% that we currently have at those positions.

      And each of those guys will be fairly priced. Probably could get all 3 of them for the price that Hawk is getting.

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  2. Lou
    February 21, 2012

    The biggest surprise was the money spent on Hawk who regressed noticeably, he didn’t let him test the waters like Jones to be able to leverage the deal. Had Jolly kept his nose clean he would have added a lot to the D-line and Chillar’s injury left no veteran LB depth at all. Although Collin’s was a big loss the defense did not play any better when he was healthy which is puzzling. He must concentrate on defense and I am sure he knows that. He has done an amazing job of improving overall depth (Sherman left him none) via the draft and undrafted free agents and winning the Super Bowl to boot. There is not a better GM in the NFL when it comes down to it.

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    • Chad Toporski
      Chad Toporski
      February 21, 2012

      I think depth is one of the most underrated aspects of the roster. Players suffer injuries all the time, and it is those teams with quality depth who can withstand the weekly injury reports.

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  3. Zack
    February 21, 2012

    Yeah, signing Hawk to such a large contract was the worst decision that TT has made as GM… the only decision he made that rivaled making me that mad was trading Darren Sharper to the Saints in ’05. At least with Sharper there was something to be said in his defense (Sharper was 29 and had a few injuries his contract year). With Hawk there’s no defense to be made (no pun intended). I think that someone tried to say that he re-signed him to such a crazy contract because he communicates really well . Well his communication skills didn’t prevent us from becoming the 32nd ranked defense this year… maybe you’re talking about when he conveyed the bird pretty effectively to the sideline this year… that was the only time that his communication skills shined as brightly as a 6mil/year contract reflects.

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    • Chad Toporski
      Chad Toporski
      February 21, 2012

      The problem is that the decision was bad only in hindsight. A lot of people were on board with the move after last season. I’m sure we’ll all be monitoring the situation with A.J. Hawk in the coming months and throughout training camp.

      Alas, the most unfortunate part is that Hawk wasn’t the only one to regress from last year.

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      • Zack
        February 22, 2012

        I’m not saying that you’re wrong, maybe there was a lot of people on board for that deal. I’m just saying, why? It’s not like we signed him to a 1 year deal as undrafted free agent to give him a chance to prove himself and then he showed us the ability to be one of the best in the league. He has proven THROUGHOUT his career that he is average at best and below average at his norm. And he had been in the league about 4- 5 years at that point. If in a half decade a linebacker doesn’t have a break out year then you don’t sign him to a 6mil/yr deal. At that point he has proven that he is not an all pro which is the type of player that kind of contract should be reserved for. And now we’re suffering the salary cap ramifications that come from a bad decision like that. We need salary cap room to bring in some pass rushers and possibly DB’s and we have contract years coming up in the next couple years for Rodgers, Jennings, etc. to keep in mind. 6mil hurts alot when you keep those things in mind.

        I just recently started blogging about the Packers because I finally found a website where there’s more depth to statements made by bloggers than “He sucks” or “F*** you” or other obscenities and drunken , brutish unthought broken sentences left by fans who spend more time throwing out personnal insults than they do talking football (thanks Al and contributers! awesome site) but had I been here when they made that deal you guys would have read my shocked and furious (albeit edited to PG) statements.

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      • Zack
        February 22, 2012

        Just to clearify, all of this is my justification for why I think this is TT’s worst decision ever made as GM. I’m not saying that I don’t support him, I do. He’s an amazing GM and has worked wonders for us so far. Every GM will make a mistake eventually but I just didn’t expect one this big from TT. Especially considering his tendency to be frugal… it’s surprising to see him spend that much for an under achiever.

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      • Chad Toporski
        Chad Toporski
        February 22, 2012

        You know, I’m wondering how much the lockout affected Thompson’s ability to manage the players. Food for thought… what might have happened had they been able to trade Flynn during the draft?

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      • Zack
        February 22, 2012

        There’s no doubt in my mind that the lockout had a big effect on TT’s ability to manage the players. I’m with you 100% on that.

        As far as Flynn goes, there’s no telling really. Flynn would have carried some value, obviously, but remember that the league didn’t take real notice of him until his performance vs. Lions. Mostly because he did what neither Favre, Rodgers, or Star did their entire careers in ONE GAME… on top of that he did it against an above average defense. The implications there are astronomical.

        Just to clearify, I’m 99.9% sure that what I’m about to say won’t happen, simply because we don’t have the cap room and even if we did it just doesn’t match TT’s pattern of strategy and philosophy. That being said, if we franchised Flynn and traded him we should be able to get one of the top 2 pass rushers in the draft. I can’t say that I think we would have been able to do the same last year.

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  4. Ron LC
    February 21, 2012

    Thge problem with evaluating the GM is that their action is usually not felt until the funture. Was 2011 the result for the 2011 draft or 2009, or 2008, or you get the idea.

    Evaluating his full body of work since 2005, I’d say he rates a B maybe a + added to the B. I think this is a very high grade for a GM. A good year next year and his grade would rise to an A.

    GB is lucky to have him and the trend into the future is positive.

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    • Chad Toporski
      Chad Toporski
      February 22, 2012

      So true, Ron.

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    • Zack
      February 22, 2012

      Agreed. I think he got his GM of the year award due to his work in past years, not really for what he did in that particular off season. He has shown mastery up to last year. This last off season has been his worst, in my opinion, since he’s been with the packers. I won’t go over why because all of my reasoning has already been discussed.

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  5. Zack
    February 22, 2012

    Does anyone know what the salary cap ramifications of cutting hawk would be?

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    • Chad Toporski
      Chad Toporski
      February 22, 2012

      According to Rotoworld.com, AJ Hawk’s salary this year is $4.4 million with a $250,000 workout bonus and a $300,000 roster bonus. The total for all of that would come to about $5 million.

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      • Bearmeat
        Bearmeat
        February 22, 2012

        CUT HAWK!!!

        Get some moderate level FA talent in April at a few positions on D.

        And draft RDE, ROLB and (depending on Collins status) S/CB early on..

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      • Zack
        February 22, 2012

        “Because of this setup, NFL contracts almost always include the right to cut a player before the beginning of a season. If a player is cut, his salary for the remainder of his contract is neither paid nor counted against the salary cap for that team. A highly sought-after player signing a long term contract will usually receive a signing bonus, thus providing him with financial security even if he is cut before the end of his contract.” provided by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salary_cap#Salary_cap_in_the_NFL

        Maybe I just don’t fully understand but based on this I didn’t think it would be 5mil. Even if it is, it’s better to fix the mistake now than commit to him and have to take the same hit next year. Damage control at this point.

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      • Chad Toporski
        Chad Toporski
        February 22, 2012

        To be completely honest, I’m not sure how the cap really works. I was putting out that information in hopes that someone could use it for further enlightenment.

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  6. Jersey Al
    Jersey Al
    February 22, 2012

    Just want to say thank you to all the new commenters I’m seeing lately. Welcome aboard and hope to see more comments in the future!

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